Posts by Big Dog

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how long did it take?

by mjs mouse, ben in

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newbie here, a lil about me......grew up around the jw religion, never was baptized but i did get to the level of "unbaptized publisher" once, as of now i dont attend any "meetings", but still get the watchtowers and awakes pushed to me by family members.

it's actually been 3 years since i realized that it wasnt the "truth", even though i've probably have known it all along.

my question to the groups is, how long did it take you to stop calling it "the truth"?

Big Dog

I was raised in it too, never baptized and I never called it the "Truth", not once that I can ever recall, that just didn't sit well with me. I have told my Dub family not to say "the Truth" in my home, call it the society, the WBTS, whatever the freak you want, but don't call it the Truth.

By the way, I never liked the name Jehovah, never said it, just always said God. I remember being questioned about that and just shrugging, inside I was just thinking, jabbering that name over and over again makes one sound like a flaming nimrod.

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Why on earth do they need all those books?

by Lady Lee in

yes i know the standard answer - they want to sell books but hang on a minute.. .

something that has always bothered me is that the average jw is incapable of explaining some of the most basic teachings without a wt book in hand.

after all those years, all that time, all those meetings, why is it so hard to understand and teach to someone else?

Big Dog

LL,

I remember the lead singer of R.E.M. Michael Stipe once being asked why he needed the lyrics to the bands songs on stage after having been performing them for years, his reply was, "Well many of them don't make any sense, and its hard to memorize stuff that doesn't make any sense."

I rest my case.

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Louis Farahkaan?

by gringojj in

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how many people follow this guy?

he is a real wacko.

he talks about being on spaceships and stuff.

Big Dog

One word, FREAK. No, wait, two words, DANGEROUS FREAK.

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The Dangers and Morality of Science

by Big Dog in

with all the discussion here about the dangers of religion, its morality issues, and so on i thought it would be interesting to have a discussion (especially given the large population of science oriented folks on this board) where we discuss the same issues with respect to science.

now this is not meant to be some i want to go back to the dark ages thread, but more so that recognition that there are moral, ethical, and hell survival issues with science that need to be addressed.. michael crichton as most know is both a famous author and an extremely bright individual who attended harvard medical school, in his novel jurrassic park he raised some issues with science and its dangers: .

"jurassic park was intended to warn the general public concerning the inherent dangers of biotechnology first of all, but also science in general.

Big Dog

Kid, I'm talking about one with a head, what then?

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The Dangers and Morality of Science

by Big Dog in

with all the discussion here about the dangers of religion, its morality issues, and so on i thought it would be interesting to have a discussion (especially given the large population of science oriented folks on this board) where we discuss the same issues with respect to science.

now this is not meant to be some i want to go back to the dark ages thread, but more so that recognition that there are moral, ethical, and hell survival issues with science that need to be addressed.. michael crichton as most know is both a famous author and an extremely bright individual who attended harvard medical school, in his novel jurrassic park he raised some issues with science and its dangers: .

"jurassic park was intended to warn the general public concerning the inherent dangers of biotechnology first of all, but also science in general.

Big Dog

Old Soul,

I'd probably hate myself and want me dead. Would it be homocide or suicide with a clone?

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I can't stand that 'hooray another earthquake' thing

by sass_my_frass in

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i think that motherdarling actually likes to hear about earthquakes, especially the ones that cause a lot of death.

i don't know why she's so excited about terrorist bombings and hurricanes though, they're not mentioned in matthew except for the faint out of fear thing.

i saw a website once with exact stats on eathquakes in the last few centuries and was delighted to learn that they only seem to have increased because of the increased population in areas where they occur and the more sophisticated technology detecting small shudders and movement in seabeds etc.

Big Dog

They just want it so bad, they don't want to grow old, get sicker, die, worry about retirement, etc. They look to it as, well, as their salvation from every problem and issue in their life, perfect body, youth, seeing dead loved ones, you can see why they are looking for it in every news flash. If I believed it, I would be too.

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The Dangers and Morality of Science

by Big Dog in

with all the discussion here about the dangers of religion, its morality issues, and so on i thought it would be interesting to have a discussion (especially given the large population of science oriented folks on this board) where we discuss the same issues with respect to science.

now this is not meant to be some i want to go back to the dark ages thread, but more so that recognition that there are moral, ethical, and hell survival issues with science that need to be addressed.. michael crichton as most know is both a famous author and an extremely bright individual who attended harvard medical school, in his novel jurrassic park he raised some issues with science and its dangers: .

"jurassic park was intended to warn the general public concerning the inherent dangers of biotechnology first of all, but also science in general.

Big Dog

Kid, but what if they do clone a person? Who are they a ward of, the state? the lab that grew them? Do they have rights like gestated humans or are they seen as something else? I just see lots of scary scenarios that have been the fodder of sci fi novels and movies playing themselves out.

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The Dangers and Morality of Science

by Big Dog in

with all the discussion here about the dangers of religion, its morality issues, and so on i thought it would be interesting to have a discussion (especially given the large population of science oriented folks on this board) where we discuss the same issues with respect to science.

now this is not meant to be some i want to go back to the dark ages thread, but more so that recognition that there are moral, ethical, and hell survival issues with science that need to be addressed.. michael crichton as most know is both a famous author and an extremely bright individual who attended harvard medical school, in his novel jurrassic park he raised some issues with science and its dangers: .

"jurassic park was intended to warn the general public concerning the inherent dangers of biotechnology first of all, but also science in general.

Big Dog

Kid A, specific organs, no problem, headless bodies starts to creep me out, and you just know that they are going to clone a full human being. I can just see a legal and ethical quagmire when they do that one.

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The Dangers and Morality of Science

by Big Dog in

with all the discussion here about the dangers of religion, its morality issues, and so on i thought it would be interesting to have a discussion (especially given the large population of science oriented folks on this board) where we discuss the same issues with respect to science.

now this is not meant to be some i want to go back to the dark ages thread, but more so that recognition that there are moral, ethical, and hell survival issues with science that need to be addressed.. michael crichton as most know is both a famous author and an extremely bright individual who attended harvard medical school, in his novel jurrassic park he raised some issues with science and its dangers: .

"jurassic park was intended to warn the general public concerning the inherent dangers of biotechnology first of all, but also science in general.

Big Dog

Nark, forgot to mention, very cool quote.

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The Dangers and Morality of Science

by Big Dog in

with all the discussion here about the dangers of religion, its morality issues, and so on i thought it would be interesting to have a discussion (especially given the large population of science oriented folks on this board) where we discuss the same issues with respect to science.

now this is not meant to be some i want to go back to the dark ages thread, but more so that recognition that there are moral, ethical, and hell survival issues with science that need to be addressed.. michael crichton as most know is both a famous author and an extremely bright individual who attended harvard medical school, in his novel jurrassic park he raised some issues with science and its dangers: .

"jurassic park was intended to warn the general public concerning the inherent dangers of biotechnology first of all, but also science in general.

Big Dog

BTT, I was hoping Tetra and Doogie would weigh in here, and all the other brainiacs. Edited to add: Unless this is a pitifully stupid thread, then ignore.